tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post5534422148107491179..comments2012-07-29T14:56:11.169+01:00Comments on the neoclassical atom: A simple model of electrons, protons, neutrons and their antiparticlesRebelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07854627411708789772noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-80845537940316093752012-07-11T10:17:10.336+01:002012-07-11T10:17:10.336+01:00Hello! Great to see someone throwing some math AND...Hello! Great to see someone throwing some math AND thought into physics. I unfortunately lack the skills in the first.. But wave only models captured a lot of my thoughts lately. <br />The "model" I currently work on operates on phase-change: space is filled with liquid aether, which force is applied on. Once the energy reaches the critical point, gaseous aether - matter emerges. Thus Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-85584008353344071912011-11-19T12:42:34.852+00:002011-11-19T12:42:34.852+00:00A photon is described as an electric field interac...A photon is described as an electric field interacting with a magnetic field in a self supporting manner along the direction of propagation, often diagrammed as two orthogonal sine waves. Can you create a similiar visualization and/or animation which explains how the E and M fields are interacting in order to produce the described shape in a stable manner? Can you determine a "path" Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-71474858596799490482010-07-31T23:32:29.614+01:002010-07-31T23:32:29.614+01:00I must have missed this when it came out...regardl...I must have missed this when it came out...regardless, it comes pretty close to your ideas..<br /><br /><br />http://www.livescience.com/technology/tying-light-knots-100117.htmlEhrichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01402325506724547991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-55531165638725247242010-07-09T15:55:16.411+01:002010-07-09T15:55:16.411+01:00Well, I'll give you the same visualization tha...Well, I'll give you the same visualization that my friend who started me down this path gave me and maybe it'll help you as well...<br /><br />Imagine a body of water that is still. Now drop in a pebble and watch the water ripple. Now drop in several pebbles at the same time in the same general area and notice the interference pattern looks incredibly like the current model of the atom. Ehrichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01402325506724547991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-19838406431430517732010-07-09T13:26:48.067+01:002010-07-09T13:26:48.067+01:00Martin:
I have not made any calculations. I neithe...Martin:<br />I have not made any calculations. I neither have all the details from the mentioned experiment (<a href="http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100707/full/news.2010.337.html" rel="nofollow">The proton shrinks in size</a>) nor the mathematical capacity to perform such calculations! I would be great, and also more credible, if somebody else cared to perform the calculation and falsify my Rebelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07854627411708789772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-75242366307163635002010-07-09T12:23:42.489+01:002010-07-09T12:23:42.489+01:00Imperator:
Thanks for the link - the article is ve...Imperator:<br />Thanks for the link - the article is very encouraging! To me it seems that my own model is almost a special case of their toroid, except for the introduced 180° twist which also allows for 1/2-wavelength particles...<br /><br />When googling the paper I also stumbled across another interesting work: <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0512265" rel="nofollow">The nature of the Rebelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07854627411708789772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-22884910541053904682010-07-09T01:49:26.371+01:002010-07-09T01:49:26.371+01:00SimpleParticle,
In light of the proton size upda...SimpleParticle, <br /><br />In light of the proton size update article that you commented on, how does your calculation change? Does it predict this exactly? Please show.<br /><br />Also, your explanations are very unclear without images depicting the geometries you describe. Even just a parametric plot in Wolfram Alpha would suffice if you don't have the proper software.Martinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03784729838118329560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-18153617526887741362010-07-08T22:36:39.553+01:002010-07-08T22:36:39.553+01:00While I barely know anything at all about the subj...While I barely know anything at all about the subject, I couldn't but notice that this model doesn't seem to depict nucleons as composite particles. Thus, if I may ask, where does this leave the quarks?carlosmoya79http://www.blogger.com/profile/05383563336224043866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-32363319729177609712010-07-08T20:58:09.586+01:002010-07-08T20:58:09.586+01:00Pardon my amateurness. I think this is fundamenta...Pardon my amateurness. I think this is fundamentally a better approach (though I suspect the details are wrong, naturally) than quantum mechanics. I think once we actually understand what an electron _is_ (and surely it is nothing but "waves" in some sense), all of the nonsense and "spooky" parts will simply melt away.<br /><br />However, I have a basic question. What is a greg alexanderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01808428820606961429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-46062972363168358102010-07-08T17:24:36.495+01:002010-07-08T17:24:36.495+01:00Sorry to get in on this so late but would you say ...Sorry to get in on this so late but would you say that your hypothesis is in parallel with Carver Mead's "wave-only" view of the atom? <br /><br />I've been working on this same hypothesis since around 2002 and I see lots of evidence to back it up including the interference pattern that seems to be present in the current model of the "electron cloud". Unfortunately I Ehrichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01402325506724547991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-2857260397713485272010-07-08T13:21:41.655+01:002010-07-08T13:21:41.655+01:00A model similar to yours is described in J.G. Will...A model similar to yours is described in J.G. Williamson and M.B. van der Mark "Is the electron a photon with toroidal topology?" 1997.<br /><br />Here is a link http://members.chello.nl/~n.benschop/electron.pdf<br /><br />or google it.<br /><br />The model has problems though.Imperatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-55184434178742501912010-04-06T18:11:02.863+01:002010-04-06T18:11:02.863+01:00Edits:
In a (heated) discussion at bautforum.com a...Edits:<br />In a (heated) discussion at <a href="http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/102068-A-simple-model-of-elementary-particles" rel="nofollow">bautforum.com</a> about the presented model an erroneous statement in the text was pointed out to me. It has now been changed. Sources to misconceptions also became evident, and have been/will be reformulated or elaborated. This includes showing Rebelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07854627411708789772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-29187784841744496172010-03-13T19:51:26.608+00:002010-03-13T19:51:26.608+00:00It doesn't.It doesn't.Rebelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07854627411708789772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-16253849847747670962009-09-05T19:37:36.522+01:002009-09-05T19:37:36.522+01:00How does this theory explain Quantum Entanglement?...How does this theory explain Quantum Entanglement?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-89855116612297510532009-04-02T18:07:00.000+01:002009-04-02T18:07:00.000+01:00I can come up with three obvious predictions:1. El...I can come up with three obvious predictions:<BR/><BR/>1. Elementary particles should be (almost) two-dimensional.<BR/><BR/>2. Also the atomic nucleus should be two-dimensional according to the model.<BR/><BR/>3. It should be possible to draw a schematic structure for every nuclide, which explains the observed nuclear spin and nuclear magnetic moment for that particular nuclide.<BR/><BR/>Please Rebelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07854627411708789772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-41789306114283327322009-04-01T18:28:00.000+01:002009-04-01T18:28:00.000+01:00"Several testable predictions can be made from the..."Several testable predictions can be made from the model, making it falsifiable."<BR/><BR/>... for example...zvnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-30920967297625761062009-03-26T18:42:00.000+00:002009-03-26T18:42:00.000+00:00Actually, according to the model the electron are ...Actually, according to the model the electron are bigger than the proton diameter-wise, but the electron is much less energy dense. Sorry for the confusion! (And for not detecting it earlier!)Rebelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07854627411708789772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-40086041648888151772008-09-11T22:19:00.000+01:002008-09-11T22:19:00.000+01:00Thanks for the comments!I have not associated any ...Thanks for the comments!<BR/><BR/>I have not associated any frequency with the electron.<BR/><BR/>The closed wave explains the two kinds of charges (right-handed and left-handed). Also, the absolute value of the charge is identical for a big particle (proton) and a small one (electron) with the same shape.<BR/><BR/>As I see it:<BR/><BR/>Open EM wave: radiation<BR/><BR/>Closed EM wave: particleRebelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07854627411708789772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7983094871003871481.post-7411739150158093462008-09-10T22:38:00.000+01:002008-09-10T22:38:00.000+01:00For a rotating field, there must be a frequency as...For a rotating field, there must be a frequency associated with it. If the field is stable, the frequency is constant. Several years ago, I discovered a correlation between the charge of the electron and a fixed frequency that falls within the range of feasibility. What frequency have you associated with your rotating field of the electron?<BR/><BR/>What has led you to believe that the field waveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com